Collins: Harvey, let me start off by asking, how did you find out you’d won the Nobel Prize? I heard a man’s voice say, “I’m the Secretary General of the Nobel Prize, calling you from Stockholm.” At that point, I just froze. We found that every case of non-A, non-B was really hepatitis C, the agent that they had cloned. That’s because the hepatitis C virus likes to persist, and our immune system doesn’t seem to be able to get rid of it easily. Alter, Michael Houghton and Charles M. Rice for the discovery of Hepatitis C virus,” Nobel Prize announcement, October 5,2020.